Nothing against Red Hat, but ever since I ditched Slackware I've been hardcore loyal to vintage Debian. Not even Ubuntu has been able to tempt me.
What I do however a bit have a problem with is both them PHP and MySQL things. Not that they are necessarily bad products, and I've worked with both before, but I guess I've become old and stuff when I like to stick to tools I have actually used a lot.
(And this probably has a lot to do also with the fact the my last PHP project doesn't bring good memories and the same also applies to the last time I did anything significant with MySQL. Again, not really the tools that were the issue, but rather the projects themselves. Oh, and maintaining Wordpress, that certainly doesn't predispose one positively towards either PHP or MySQL.)
We're just getting so tired of hassling with the old packages and the overall stiffness of Debian so we're trying to finally move away from it.. (to Fedora, as it has made life easy before. :) PHP, well, yeah, the culture behind it was mentioned in that one discussion at your offices. :) It's funny how well it shows in pretty much every PHP app..
(Hm, why don't they just name the Debian releases by the nicknames of human generations. I guess the time scale of those would be a pretty close match . :)
Well, I've been running Debian "unstable" for years now. Encounters with broken packages happen perhaps once or twice a year. For me that is about tolerable as the overall quality of Debian packages tends to be very high - and there are plenty of those available (no need for random third party repositories).
For production Debian "stable" is usually okay and for packages (or newer versions) that are missing then a simple backporting operating usually suffices.
And back to PHP: Why is it that every piece of PHP I encounter you're just supposed to throw the code in "htdocs/" or wherever and then launch "install.php"? That just, um, wrong.
Well, if “web pages” is the way how you view the world, what else could you possibly come up with but making the installation procedure yet another page?) It's just hammer and nails.. :)
Btw., as they say that latin is the lisp of natural languages (or which way was it), I've been thinking that it might actually be quite enlightening to learn. Well, on the other hand, I don't know how relevant natural languages are anyways if the primary environment is a purely informational one.. Or, I guess it depends on the scale of interference. (Don't you hate it when this obscure “real world” interferes with the purely logical one? :) Actually, is the main purpose of natural languages to describe the natural world and it's phenomena? Guess so. A somewhat working rule of thumb, perhaps..
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apt-get dist-upgrade fedora :)
1 year ago by jsav
Nothing against Red Hat, but ever since I ditched Slackware I've been hardcore loyal to vintage Debian. Not even Ubuntu has been able to tempt me.
What I do however a bit have a problem with is both them PHP and MySQL things. Not that they are necessarily bad products, and I've worked with both before, but I guess I've become old and stuff when I like to stick to tools I have actually used a lot.
(And this probably has a lot to do also with the fact the my last PHP project doesn't bring good memories and the same also applies to the last time I did anything significant with MySQL. Again, not really the tools that were the issue, but rather the projects themselves. Oh, and maintaining Wordpress, that certainly doesn't predispose one positively towards either PHP or MySQL.)
1 year ago by toivotuo
We're just getting so tired of hassling with the old packages and the overall stiffness of Debian so we're trying to finally move away from it.. (to Fedora, as it has made life easy before. :) PHP, well, yeah, the culture behind it was mentioned in that one discussion at your offices. :) It's funny how well it shows in pretty much every PHP app..
(Hm, why don't they just name the Debian releases by the nicknames of human generations. I guess the time scale of those would be a pretty close match . :)
1 year ago by jsav
Well, I've been running Debian "unstable" for years now. Encounters with broken packages happen perhaps once or twice a year. For me that is about tolerable as the overall quality of Debian packages tends to be very high - and there are plenty of those available (no need for random third party repositories).
For production Debian "stable" is usually okay and for packages (or newer versions) that are missing then a simple backporting operating usually suffices.
And back to PHP: Why is it that every piece of PHP I encounter you're just supposed to throw the code in "htdocs/" or wherever and then launch "install.php"? That just, um, wrong.
1 year ago by toivotuo
Well, if “web pages” is the way how you view the world, what else could you possibly come up with but making the installation procedure yet another page?) It's just hammer and nails.. :)
Btw., as they say that latin is the lisp of natural languages (or which way was it), I've been thinking that it might actually be quite enlightening to learn. Well, on the other hand, I don't know how relevant natural languages are anyways if the primary environment is a purely informational one.. Or, I guess it depends on the scale of interference. (Don't you hate it when this obscure “real world” interferes with the purely logical one? :) Actually, is the main purpose of natural languages to describe the natural world and it's phenomena? Guess so. A somewhat working rule of thumb, perhaps..
1 year ago by jsav